This is not an official translation and may contain errors and inaccurate translations. If it's only for Backup, why not just download the Central from the BIM360 (if published that is in the WIP and/or SHARED folder.). Did not fix the problem How do I enable worksets in the model sent by the architect? This page has been translated for your convenience with an automatic translation service. Ask the community or share your knowledge. ", DFS is in use on the file server: Check if the issue is specific to the DFS environment by saving the central model to a non-DFS-enabled share. Since you are saving a cloud shared model to another location that BIM360 does not save files (and you cant break work sharing when saving) it has to be a central model when saved locally. If you can do that without an error, verify that it's the original and not the alternate model. This means you are either not in the correct version of Revit for the selected file (upgrading would be bad or and newer file format simply cannot be opened) or you have selected a local file. The option to Make this a Central Model after save is not actually an option to break work sharing, it is an option to either save a work shared model as a local to the central model or to create a new central model. If you discard work sets the detached model becomes truly detached and now a non-collaborative model. If you're not going to answer the question, don't comment. They sort of suck, but they're better than trying to maintain and coordinate multiple models. Solved by Darin_HDR. etc. You rename to avoid overwriting the existing central model and potentially losing all other team members' changes. In the File Save Options dialog, select Make this a Central Model after save. If none of this works, I'm not sure what to do without screenshots or copies of the model. Depending on how many editable worksets are in the central model, this option may significantly reduce performance in larger project files. Its not so big problem. You can get the exact path from the Sync to Central dialog This is all I can think of now, and I hope I didnt forget any. Right-click a Revit central file and select Detach from central. You got me thinking and here is my breakdown and thoughts. Create your central model again everything will work fine after you do this. Even other departments within a company usually prefer to have their own central model and import ours instead of the built-in tools. For example your project folder is mapped to letter S:One user has mapped S: for \\10.10.10.5\Projects\Your Projectanother one has mapped S: for \\server00\Projects\Your Project. FILE > OPTIONS > FILE LOCATIONS > "Default path for user files". Note: If you have installed the Revit Cloud Worksharing add-on, then: Click Collaborate tab Manage Collaboration panel Collaborate. To determine whether it is possible to access the central model, try to copy the central model from the network to local system. (You really should have started your own thread.). Work shared central model on the server: Make this a Central Model after save, Option - unchecked & not greyed out. The example below is from the point of view of an Architectural firm. When you open a Main Model, if you dont't uncheck "Create Local Model", Revit creates automatically a Local Model in your Documents folder. You hijacked a thread with an question different from the topic. However, when I go to Save As and select Options, the box for 'Make this a Central Model after save' is checked and greyed out so I cannot uncheck it. For example, if your central model is called OfficeBuilding_CentralFile, you see the project file and the backup folder (OfficeBuilding_CentralFile_backup) in the directory. \appdata\local\Autodesk\Revit\\CollaborationCache\\. Any other suggestions? Another possible cause is a user has reverted back to a single user file (a dialogue box would have been displayed though warning them of this.) In the Save As dialog, specify a file name and directory location for the central model. Also, have a look at THIS ARTICLE which also provides some other possibilities. If you keep work sets the detached modelbecomes a new central model. I just want to understand why Revit is making this option unavailable to me in this particular menu in this particular circumstance. I had no luck trying this. Open the existing workshared file. In the Open workset default list, select one of the following. Thanks. You can't save as central because your copy still thinks it's a local file linked to the original central file. To translate this article, select a language. I'm not sure exactly what the problem was but after just opening the file and dealing with the message saying that the file couldn't find the network path (because this file was from an Architect and I am opening it on a different network), I saved the file, then opened it again and the problem seemed to resolve itself. When specifying a name for the central model, use a naming convention that identifies it as the central model (for example, OfficeBuilding_CentralModel.rvt). You might be working on a Central model itself. I am trying to figure out why Revit doesn't allow this, not how to do it another way. If this is greyed out then Worksets have not been initiated. Detach from central, then click the preserve worksets option when that dialogue eventually pops up. Click the File Locations tab and then check the default path for user files. I mean, sure I can do all the stuff you suggested . The most common cause of this behavior is in the context of file-based worksharing when project membersare accessing the central model through different paths: "The central model cannot be found, perhaps due to a lost network connection. The central model has issues that needs to be investigated. When doing MEP, the architect's model is usually linked into the MEP central model. Privacy | Do not sell or share my personal information | Cookie preferences | Report noncompliance | Terms of use| 2023 Autodesk Inc. All rights reserved, " when creating a local from the central model">, "Revit cannot create a local copy from the central file ". We have this when the Revit installed do not match. Resurrecting an old thread. Share your knowledge, ask questions, and explore popular Revit Architecture topics. . the server where the central file is turned off, . you need to detach always all files you are not saving as a central mode, REVIT EXPERT ELITE is it working for you ? I would address the WARNINGS list Folder of CENTRAL model has unusual permissions set, or set to have maximum number of users The path where LOCAL files are saved, is My Documents and I recommend you change it to something better, like C:\Local Revit The EXACT path the CENTRAL model is located MUST I repeat MUST be the exact same one used by ALL team members working on the model. If it's the original model that you want to continue working in, first, as mentioned above, make sure that worksharing is enabled. Again, not sure what the problem was but thanks for your feedback, Rudi. You are the one hijacking a thread with useless belligerent drivel. Save over the central model. Fabio Itiro Sato| @fabioisato| Fabio Sato. Welcome to Autodesks Revit MEP Forums. Therefore, I thought I would put it all down in one place for reference. Can't find what you're looking for? Make this a Central Model after save, Option checked & greyed out. The main complaint is that it causes sync to be too slow or that things move around too much while multiple disciplines are working on the model simultaneously, i.e. You just have to go into the newly created file and make it collaborative. Can't find what you're looking for? Why won't Revit let me do this here? That's true of any folder however. I am the only person working on the new file but because we were in a hurry and waiting on information I made a copy of this file in which I created alternate layouts. I am having this same issue, even outside of BIM 360. In Revit, go to the application menu click on Save as, Project and name it the same as the original Central file name and in the original location. Learn how to Detach a file from a Revit Central Model and the difference between the 2 options. Share your knowledge, ask questions, and explore popular Revit MEP topics. Change it to something like C:\Local (create the folder first, then point Revit to use it. Am I missing something? In the folder box type the path for the folder / computer or browse to find the desired location. 3. The first file I opened was a model received from an Architect. Reset the user name to the previous value (from the step 3.1). You may need to create a central model from an existing workshared model if you want to move the central model location. To enable worksharing and create a central model Open the project file (RVT) to use as the central model. Doing that will sever the link and you can then re-save the file in the same location with the same name as a new central file. By sending copies for collaboration they control revisions that are sent out and can internally check and correct issues before other people spend time trying to match up with things that are temporary. TRACKS Sorry, HTML5 Canvas is required. In the File Save Options dialog, select Make this a Central Model after save. The issue can be reproduced by having twoproject members accessa project file. In the Save As dialog, click Save. Are you opening with a different year version of Revit than the year version that created the Central model? Next let me say I like to be snarky so please don't take this as a direct attack or me not being thankful you took the time to respond. The save local is greyed out for all my revit modles and it doesnt matter where its saved or the version I use. They remain disabled unless you select a project file that has already that has already had the Worksharing features enabled. If you hadn't made a point to attack me personally when I just stated facts, I would be more than willing to help you out with your misconceptions and mistakes but I'm tired of the personal attacks. If you are detaching it from central, it is becomeing it's own thing. Close the project. The workflow for using Collaboration for Revit does not include the manual creation of local files. Thanks in advance for any solutions offered. Select a default workset for local copies. Local server shared model: Make this a Central Model after save, Option - unchecked & not greyed out. Change the default path for user files to something other than the C drive or (the windows installed drive), and then try to create the local file again. Select a default workset for local copies. To translate this article, select a language. See the following help topic for initial troubleshooting on this topic: If the central model opens, then the issue is with writing the local model. Ok man, just in the slightest case you are not a bored internet troll I will tell you that almost none of the architects use the cloud or collaboration tools correctly. Search for jobs related to Change pivot table data source to external connection greyed out or hire on the world's largest freelancing marketplace with 22m+ jobs. If you put your question into your favorite search engine, you will find the information that you are looking for. Before you create a new central model, be sure to rename the workshared file or specify a different directory path before saving. In your screenshots, you are trying to open that Local Model, that's why you can't save it as local: it's already local. How to create a central model file with Autodesk Revit from a project file, setup basics of collaboration and worksets, also how to create Local files to have multiple users in a project and how to monitor who and what is happening within the project. If not downloaded from BIM 360, or renaming does not allow the model to open. Make sure that theRevitOptions setting for. Check the path name is correct C:\Users\Username\Documents as an example. This is not an official translation and may contain errors and inaccurate translations. Once the file is open, Save As with a new file name (eg. Can't find what you're looking for? Privacy | Do not sell or share my personal information | Cookie preferences | Report noncompliance | Terms of use| 2023 Autodesk Inc. All rights reserved. I tried that with the same results, the initial PC can open it with Create New Local but the other PC's can't. Autodesk does not warrant, either expressly or implied, the accuracy, reliability or completeness of the information translated by the machine translation service and will not be liable for damages or losses caused by the trust placed in the translation service. On the Document Management module click on the folder you want to upload your file to and click the blue Upload button. In my experience, clients like it when you tell them they are asking for something that is going to cause trouble down the line. Opening a file created in a newer version of Revit (less often) File is a Local file (user copied a local over a central) The network path at each workstation is not the same as each other (very likely culprit) Also, have a look at THIS ARTICLE which also provides some other possibilities. I made a new file with the architect's central file loaded in. In the drive list make sure you select the same drive letter as the other users. 2011-06-13, 09:42 PM #2. gvluisi. Whatever you can still create and work with this central model file. Thanks for the reply. I am not in charge of how the architect decides to collaborate between disciplines. The alternate has since been discarded but now every time I open the File I get a message " this local file has been copied" and tells me that in order to fix this I must save as the central file. There is one more thing to say to this topic. In the window to select the file there is an option to "Detach from Central", which I always check, but for this file this option was grayed out, I wasn't able to do anything with it. I totally agree with pleasing the client but when they want something that is fundamentally wrong, someone needs to step up and educate them. Do not sell or share my personal information. Only worksets open in the last session open. At least thats what i got from working with BIM360, don't know about the latest version of BIM360 and might change with future versions of BIM360 and/or Revit. File PnntRange Current window -Vtste portion of current window Selected views/sheets Preview FIGURE 2-6.1 Print dialog Options Number of . I followed the instructionsin this link http://bimboom.blogspot.com/2010/10/why-is-create-new-local-grayed-out.htmland it fixed the problem. Make this a Central Model after save, Option - checked & greyed out. This is not an official translation and may contain errors and inaccurate translations. Close. Opening all worksets will significantly reduce performance in larger project files. In the Open workset default list, select one of the following. This page has been translated for your convenience with an automatic translation service. 3users could create new local and then sync. http://bimboom.blogspot.com/2010/10/why-is-create-new-local-grayed-out.htmland. I sincerely hope you didn't synchronize this second model after you created it, because if you did you probably just made your original model a duplicate of the copy. **MOST COMMON REASON** The PATH in which the central model created is different for the user who created that central model than yours. Autodesk does not warrant, either expressly or implied, the accuracy, reliability or completeness of the information translated by the machine translation service and will not be liable for damages or losses caused by the trust placed in the translation service. Open it again, this time checking the "detach from central" instead of "create new local" option from the open screen. I think it makes sense if you think about it. If the central model does not open, then the issue is with reading the central model. When he opens from the same central file location - the check box is greyed out and does not allow him to make a local copy, but asked him to copy the central file instead. I have a BIM 360 cloud model I am trying to just save a backup locally before I make a bunch of changes to the model (yes I know BIM 360 saves a bunch of these files automatically). Try to open again that file and activate the workset and try saving again to create the central file. 7. 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