Great work . as usual. Florida (on the left) using a standard dispersion test. This is 180 AP shells fired at a stationary Fuso bot. Shots are coming in from the left to right (Fuso is bow-tanking). California is on the right with the same parameters. California uses American battleship dispersion with 1.9 sigma versus Florida's battlecruiser dispersion with 1.7 sigma. Florida feels appreciably more accurate than most other American battleships, though her lower sigma value will make her feel only slightly better than ships like California or Arizona. Nothing can touch California, though, which sits smack in the middle of the tier VIII American BB range, rubbing elbows with Alabama, North Carolina and everyone's favourite: Massachusetts. Queens are 2-3 in their last 5 games. This doesn't look like a good ship at all. VERDICT: Pretty darned good for raw concealment values, though she struggles to spot stuff on her own. It's too bad she doesn't have the agility to make better use of this trait. The totals have gone OVER in 3 of Queens' last 5 games. Wargaming will try and sell you this ship bragging that this reach is to California's advantage. According to FBI data, there were a total of 1.3 million violent offenses reported in 2020, or 388 for every 100,000 people -- a 5% increase from 2019. Solid rearward firing angles, well suited to kiting. I do so hope they finally understand how important an active, vocal gaming community is to a game such as WoWS., Thanks for sharing a bit of history with us., Awesome retrospective. Once you start stacking on any other flaws and they just become unpalatable -- and California's gun handling and reload are some pretty wonky flaws, especially when paired with her slow speed. The bot was without camouflage. Sure -- they have better range and much better sigma than New Mexico's. And that's fair to say. The Gators average only 0.2 more points than the Wildcats allow (69.3). Florida's citadel layout tells you all you really need to know about this ship's durability. The TL:DR is that her citadel abuts against the exterior of her hull and it sits above the waterline. With only 285mm worth of belt protection, this exposed "T-section" of her citadel is stupid-easy to bullseye for waterline-aimed shots from enemy battleships. For 380mm+ AP shells aimed at her bows, her transverse bulkhead is almost as vulnerable. Granted I have California too (mostly due to 1. She is a powerful tier VI battleship, so you might think my comparison unfair. You see, the normal American tech-tree battleships have an artificial boost added to their engines -- they don't bleed speed like normal battleships do. Florida has access to two different camouflage patterns. By default, she comes with Type 10 Camouflage. However. Florida man, Florida man Guess the tune. The following is a review of USS Florida, the tier VII American premium battleship. I did not pay fo March 1, 2023 10:00 am CT. Auburn baseball plays Florida A&M on Wednesday evening, and if youre wondering how you can watch the action live, youve come to the right place. Flak Bursts: 5 explosions for 1,400 damage per blast at 3.5km to 5.8km.Long Ranged (up to 5.8km): 137 dps at 75% accuracyMedium Ranged (up to 3.5km): 364 dps at 75% accuracyShort Ranged (up to 2.0km): 490dps at 70% accuracy. Long range is nice, so flex those aiming skills you've acquired, but her gun caliber and long reload will largely limit the impact this has. Florida basketball got back on the winning track on Tuesday night with a 77-67 win over the Georgia Bulldogs on the road in the penultimate regular-season game for the Gators. Horrible rudder shift time of 15.4 seconds. Her stern is made up of composite layers of armour beneath the 26mm outer shell in a similar vein to Giulio Cesare's bow. Double Down, Ohio! To be fair, I might actually like it based on the gun performance, but I have no real use for a squishy BB. In order to land citadel hits, shells must contend with her 35mm anti-torpedo bulge then her 343mm belt and finally her 44mm citadel wall. Her turning radius of 760m is decent. It's not amazing, but it's alright. Taylor Jones. It's not high-velocity Soviet-good like Poltava's, though, nor does it have Duke of York's improved auto-ricochet angles (which shares the same penetration as KGV). That fact has lingered with me but perhaps I can make her work better than most. Fair enough. Granted I have California too (mostly due to 1. Historical Ship and 2. Native Californian) but she is a slow girl relegated to sitting Looking at the charts, i'm surprised how average Poltava is. Hmm Thanks Mouse really good food for thought. Florida Gov. I wouldn't be a Community Contributor (CC) if it weren't for Critter8. I'm not sure the WGNA CC-program would have even existed if it weren't for him. Back in 2015, before there was a Community Contributor program, content creators like myself worked unsupported by Wargaming in any capacity. The predecessor to the NA-CC program was Club Wargaming which promised the world and delivered nothing but a booger-green title on the forums. Club Wargaming included dozens of content creators which had sprung up during Closed and Open Beta, including some big names like @PhlyDaily. All of us were paying out of pocket to produce content or having to rely on donations from fans to get access to the newest premium content. Critter8 took exception to this. He had made Ship Comrade -- a fan site whose best early features included tracking Rank Battle progress and had one of (if not THE) first Captain Skill calculator. He took his fandom seriously and wanted a professional relationship with Wargaming to facilitate content production. To the best of my knowledge, the statistics discussed in this article are current as of patch 0.9.5.1. Base/Minimum Surface Detection: 13.86km / 12.1kmBase/Minimum Air Detection Range: 10.08km/9.07kmDetection Range When Firing in Smoke: 12.01kmMaximum Firing Range: Between 18.62km and 25.92km, Flordia's concealment values are pretty darned good. She doesn't quite get into that magical sub-12km surface detection range which is quite impressive for a battleship, but at least she gets close. Given her preferred engagement distance, it's pretty easy for this ship to drop off from detection range in typical encounters -- especially given her long reload. If she had a bit more grunt in her engines, controlling the engagement through use of her stealth would be a lot more feasible, but her 27 knot top speed just isn't enough to kite away from all of the battleships she faces, to say nothing of cruisers and destroyers.. You probably want, Arizona & California's Main Battery Differences. And I'm fine with that as long as they give us module choices like in RTS to customize are play. However, the premium standards Arizona, West Virginia 1941 and now California, all lack this boost. Along with either A: removing IFHE or B: changing DCP and Repair Party to have slightly faster CD's and Repair Party to fix more pen damage if IFHE stays. Something not really mentioned is her torpedo protection, though probably not needed due to her low HP. That 26% really doesn't amount to much as even a single torpedo from any of the ships you face there will hurt, especially if it hits an unprotected spot. You will need to avoid being torpedoed with her much more than any other BB. A salvo from the Campbeltown will cripple you, even if it all goes into the torpedo belt. Eat a salvo from the Farragut, and you are going to be in very bad shape. A salvo from Gallant will pretty much end your run. If either Farragut or Gallant hit you with a full (both launchers) salvo, your run is over, even at 100%. This means, gunnery wise, you're paying more money for a worse experience. The only thing to watch out for is if one your DD/CL uses smoke and hide all other ships, MO will target you and you don't want that with Florida's armor. I've sorted these ships by the formula I like to use (DPS x [range-1km]) to give a better, but not entirely accurate, impression of AA effectiveness -- the logic being that longer range AA is better than shorter range AA. Her improved dispersion via sigma will only be apparent over the course of multiple games rather than individual matches. Ez fix". I'm left to wonder what the point of California's design implementation as is. California uses New Mexico's 356mm/50 caliber guns rather than Arizona's 356mm/45s. Observe: California has absolutely horrid main battery traverse rates, coming about at a glacial 60s for 180. In Florida, life is good. If I can help others avoid that, I will. Here's what the numbers tell us. Her carry potential is limited. While expert players can flex a lot of their in-game knowledge to get more out of Florida's potential, her defensive limitations thwart most attempts to push aggressively. Her guns don't hit hard enough or fast enough and are foiled by even limited angling. Still, she's a nice support ship. If you want to play a more passive, supporting role, Florida works well, especially against CVs. Thus her range becomes even more important. Big, punchy guns are a must. I prefer durability to agility, but I need one of those two elements to be present. If a battleship can't manage these things, they've got a big, uphill battle to win my affections. Some of them still manage it. Scharnhorst, for example, doesn't have the main battery guns to wow me, but she still pulls off a win between her secondaries, fish and the combination of speed and tankiness. I've tried to keep an open mind while play testing Florida, but good gravy, my time in her has not been pleasant. I'm under no illusions that this is very clearly a me problem. Florida herself is a well balanced ship. I just hate her. She doesn't have any one element of this trifecta that I enjoy in my battleships. All you really need to know are the battleship basics: use the correct ammo, beware of flashing your sides, try not to get left behind. Top Speed: 27 knotsTurning Radius: 760mRudder Shift Time: 15.4 seconds4/4 Engine Speed Rate of Turn: 4.1/s. Top Speed: 20.5 knotsTurning Radius: 640mRudder Shift Time: 14.7 seconds4/4 Engine Speed Rate of Turn: 3.7/s. But so far CV's under the rework have mostly lacked that and are a farce. Excellent AA firepower, equivalent to a tier VIII American battleship. Arizona sits just behind California in AP and HE DPM, but not so much that you'll notice in most cases. After an impressive week that saw the Tigers go 3-1-1, Auburn begins a new week by welcoming in Florida A&M to Plainsman Park for a Her rudder shift time of 15.4s is the most remarkable thing about her and not in a good way. It's slow. Florida is the state that more or less stayed open during the pandemic and thrived in its defiance. While tier VI carriers have to respect your AA firepower they can still strike you. VERDICT: Honestly, some of the best AA defence we've seen in a long time. I'm kinda shocked. Were it not for her horribly slow speed, I'd have given her a 'simple' rating. California's protection scheme is decent for a tier VII battleship but it's nothing special either short of her anti-torpedo protection (which is good but not as amazing as the size of her bulges would suggest). Picking her up and farming some damage is pretty easy. Thus cutting through all of the crap, California's only significant change is her range increase over Arizona and she pays for this with truly appalling gun fire arcs. I won't be purchasing her. The LSU Tigers womens basketball team strung together its second-straight win since a disappointing loss to South Carolina on Sunday, beating Florida on the road 90-79. Florida's upgrade choices are pretty dull. Arizona will set you back the equivalent of 6,900 doubloons. Let's pretend Arizona doesn't exist. See Full The most dangerous shots come from medium to long range where shells have a bit of drop going for them to strike beneath the waterline and angle towards the citadel. Thanks (again) for this review. As we've already covered, she doesn't really have that much better of a chance of doing so than Arizona. We already got that game play and at a better price and matchmaking. In a way I'm glad there's not a ship named after my home state they can give this sort of treatment to. Thank you @LittleWhiteMouse. I was curious about this ship as i really love playing Arizona. Based on our research, heres the ranking of states where average annual car insurance rates are the most expensive: Florida: $2,560. I am endlessly grateful for the opportunity and help he provided for me. For personal reasons, he had to step back from World of Warships. As the CC program again got overhauled, Wargaming dropped his CC-status despite his continued efforts to host and support other CCs. Sadly, Ship Comrade was never a profitable enterprise. Donations helped keep the lights on for a time, but all things must come to an end. He ran the site out of his own pocket for over five years. I don't fault him in the least for retiring. I have spent a TON! This is why I took issue with West Virginia appearing in her Pearl Harbor mien and not that of Surigao Strait. Her horrible gun fire angles necessitate that she swing out and show a lot more broadside in order to bring the weight of fire to bear on targets. I just came to read another review by LWM, and donot have Florida, but I have been farming in Narai since other farming OPs were taken down. Trouble is, I don't insist on such a ship being American; if I want a ship which does the things Florida does, I have KGV and Lyon. This means the moment you touch their rudder, they dump their speed faster than a tweaked-out college student having their dorm inspected. They provide the same bonuses and are merely a cosmetic swap. As much as I would like to be excited about her range, she needs it or the ship simply doesn't work. I bought the super Pershing in Tanks.. opps. Her rotation rate of 4.1/s is again, pretty average. This ship has been provided to me by Wargaming for evaluation purposes -- I did not have to pay for this thing, which is a good thing because I would have felt offended had I shelled out money for this horribly mistreated piece of history. Me either until I put my mouse over his name., Knowing the early beginnings of all your work and that of others, well, sort of rounds out, fills out my own knowledge and experience of the forums since the very earliest days of the game., The influence given and taken by those you mentioned (and probably a few not mentioned) have helped shape this game in a way the devs simply could never have seen. Overall, the ships are very comparable in terms of their protection and durability. Like American Lite Beer, the CV rework has a lot to answer for. This ship is slow. LittleWhiteMouse, July 2, 2020 in General Game Discussion. Alright, that's enough fussing over what is little more than a curiosity. Let's get onto the meat of the matter. 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