https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Daniel_Loponte/publication/258529165_Complete_Mitochondrial_Genomes_of_Ancient_Canids_Suggest_a_European_Origin_of_Domestic_Dogs/links/0deec52966c4b5229c000000.pdf, Clothes 30,000 Yrs . this is a truth that shows just how far man can fall into sin. For I have killed a man for hurting me, and a boy for hitting me. Here we must rely on general revelation. Anyway its much more complicated than this, but these are the basics as to what my studies have found, while studying under the influence of the Holy Spirit. Why is anybody studying questions like this? He built brand new creatures (being both physical and spiritual) of the dust from the earth and a rib, and shaped them into the human form. Language is man made and therefore anything ever said, written, or read is based solely on interpretation. to good. 1:13) Paul in fact warned the congregation in Crete of such stories (Titus 1:14) he told the Cretans to avoid the Jewish Fables. 6 But when he was twenty years of age, he begat a son, whom he called Enos; The selectivity with which fundamentalist choose what they take literally from the babylonian cosmology is not based on sound exegesis but on what is defensible based on having limited knowledge of science and what is not defensible even with the sketchiest knowledge of science. God isnt a jew, Adam wasnt a jew, Noah wasnt a jew, The Babylonian Talmud teaches that Adam was the man of Genesis one the first man. I do not see where it gives a direct teaching on Adam coming out of the dust, but it does say that we will rise from the dust in the resurrection. If you want to resesrch you cannot exclude all other ancient texts. Angels taking on human form and humans was a bad and evil combo. After her husband's death in 1981, Mrs. McCain and her identical twin sister, Rowena, took long driving trips through Europe, the Middle East and Asia. The preadamic rulership over the earth isnt agriculture like in Gen. 2:15 So to sa y, awe, they just didnt mention thise people is rediculous. Pretend everything you have ever been told from anyone the media, your parents, your church, history books, the bible pretend EVERYTHING is all a lie and then research the truth on your own and come to a conclusion based on what YOU YOURSELF conclude. Mr. Benjamincan u tell me whats the name of the second book, Mr. Benjamin Dig into the illuminating world of the Bible with a BAS All-Access membership. The preadamites descend from the terrestrial animals, as the verb asah in Gen. 1.26 proves. He is quoting the two texts as a single unit meaning that He saw no distinction. There are many difficulties . So the wives of Cain, Henoch, Noah etc. Where do you find a Lake in the text? Cain married of of his elder brothers daughter. After the world was formed, God finished His work of creation by raising one man from the dust and one woman from the mans ribs. There also is some evidence of two additional but now dry riverbeds in the Near East which lends more credibility to the original Adam and Eve story with the four named rivers. I was just answering your challenge. It is likely that Cain married a sister. That being said, Noah and Adam can be, but do not have to be all. Daughters before Seth are phoney, just as the rest of the traditional exegesis. Of course, neschamah means spirit of knowledge, but in the meaning of to realize, not to know. The interpretation is that after Cain killed Abel, Cain took Abels widow as his wife which is recorded possibly in Gen 4:17. after arguing about it they both decided that they should marry I can wait. The Bible describes many other scientific areas such as, the water cycle, the classifying of animal life into kinds, the complexity of the universe. So its a clear evidence that GOD promoted that kind of marriage in the early times. Share April 07, 2022. As for religions being blood guilty, I fully agree. He predicts the Flood. I agree that we can learn from Genetic studies and radiometric dating. But the writer of the bible did assume that we could figure out that there were more children born to Adam and Eve, that is why when the lifespan verse of the Christ lineage males always say (and they begat sons and daughters; and they died). I just hate how the article tries to weave lies in to truth..ie theres no actual evidence the bible supports people outside of creation just because they want to make it look like it does. Im a follower of Christ and love God. Looking at the examples of Cain and Abel, and also Jacob and Esau, does this mean that there are children who are cursed even before theyre born? the Cain wife is an Abel twins sister,because if you look at the book of Old Testament there allows mention males name not female name that is why the dont mention her name and because man are the head of family, The cain wife is Abel twin sister, Because if you look at the books of Old Testament, there allows mention male but not female that is why Bible dont mention har name because man are the head of the family, Then let us try to find the real name of Cain wife and where he get her, we are learning. As marriage in the Bible specifies one man for one woman for life, this means Christians have to be able to explain how Adam and Eves sons could marry and have children to propagate the human race. http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2009/06/090624-bone-flute-oldest-instrument.html This is usually because of societal taboos or fear of genetic defects. Him refers to one person, unless you have other Biblical passages which use the singular of et to refer to more than one person. There is no way to tell the difference between HN and HHS. There is no problem with bringing in a sceptical argument but to throw such theologically liberal material at us as the main diet is not going to encourage me to remain with the site! Here is the answer, Cain and Abel were not the first children of our first parents, that is Adam and Eve. Likewise, Exodus 21:22-23 makes no distinction between death coming to the woman or the prematurely born child. We, the Mormons have known this since the.restoration over 180 years ago. http://holybooks.lichtenbergpress.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/Babylonian-Talmud.pdf, Midrash Rabbah, Bereshith, Ch. In Genesis 2 God puts Adam to work with plants. Adam also got spirit of knowledge (neschamah), not just life breath. If the Bible is not meant to be taken literally then I assume you also dont believe in a literal God Not sure why you bother becoming a Pastor if you start of with not believing the foundation of the Bible. He reveals certain mysteries of life. The Samarians told this story well before, along with the flood story and many others. Any other human beings would have had to come from the sexual relation of Adam and Eve. But geneticists, by tracing the DNA patterns found in people throughout the world, have now identified lineages . This tale is truly not truthful but a Jewish fable. WHERE HE DWELT AFTER LEAVING GODS PRESENCE WAS NAMED AFTER HIM, THE LAND OF WANDERER. February 13 2015 How could Cain have married an aunt when there were no women of Eves generation: neither Adam or Eve had a sister. 226). 2 And again, she bore his brother Abel. I will also add that on day six, God created animals which are domesticated, wild animals and creeping animals. In the creation Report, that is not the case. The pinnacle of earthly bliss was reached when Adam and Eve witnessed the birth of their first children, a set of twins. Genesis 5:4 tells us that Adam and Eve begat sons and daughters. Josephus, the Jewish historian, states that The number of Adams children, as says the old tradition, was thirty-three sons and twenty-three daughters. The point, of course, is that Adam and Eve did have many children. When God created Adam and Eve, they were perfect,, but, because of disobedience they lost perfection and died, (1 Timothy 2:13, 14), (Romans 5:12). It is the instinctive power of feeling and action needed to sustain the body (Essential Papers on Kabbalah, by Lawrence Fine, p.120). 3.19) . Hello Robert, the reason Cain and Abel are written in there is because of the sin Cain committed, before the event of Cain killing his brother Abel, no man had ever taken a life. Humans have been around for about 100,000 years. And in the first (year) of the third jubilee, Cain slew Abel because (God) accepted the sacrifice of Abel Cain, a farmer, became enraged when the Lord accepted the offering of his brother, a shepherd, in preference to his own. This is also called the vital soul, since the Hebrew word for vitality is hiyyut is akin to the word for beasts, hayyot. I dont believe that anywhere in any scripture is Adam and eve referred to as husband and wife. So Cains wife was already a mother or he wouldnt have referred to her as a cow. TDH writes, The Bible was not meant to be taken literally. Sez who? So, since all humans on the planet earth came from Adam and Eve, and Cain had a human wife, and all humans were already outside the garden of Eden, therefore the proper conclusion, one borne by the revelation of the God the Holy Spirit, is that Cains wife, whom he took from the people outside the garden, was also a descendant of Adam and Eve. With that being said how do I know what goes on in your household unless you tell me what goes on there? Cain knew his wife, and she conceived and bore Enoch" (Genesis 4:16-17). To rule does not mean to hunt. It means to have dominion. If you would like to leasrn more about this fascinating new book check it out on Amazon Adam and Eve Only Once? It is this neshamah/breath that is a spiritual-religious force that draws man near to God and preserves the bonds between them, Ladies and gentlemen, you are missing the big picture. Pretty much every name has a meaning, including country names. Ill want to respond to some comments. In Gen. 2:7, it isnt even written that Adam was formed FROM the dust. And at that early date, it wasnt as systematic as since 12,000 years ago. March 28, 1975. Today Cristal had her most emotional day ever. Even the Big Bang theory was fathered by a preist. Who would and why would someone look for Cain to do him harm? The idea of directly forming a human out of dust or mud would raise much laughter among old Hebrews. FREE ebook: Exploring Genesis: The Bibles Ancient Traditions in Context Cain is a mythical figure. Its the Interface between the 6. and the 7. Almost every day some People experienced the events of this story. What about Genesis 1 chapter 26 . i actually have this as an assessment based assignment so please any more useful findings are very appreciated. The story is a recording of an event that has significance to the life of the believer. I think Adam lived about 2000 BC among other humans in Southern Mesopotamia. I know Jewish sources are not the Word of God, but you said that old Hebrews would laugh at the idea of humans being made out of dust or mud. I feel very sorry for you, for you live in darkness and will likely do so until the day you die. Radio carbon studies can tell alot also. There is no evidence that Adam and eve never existed. Lilith, And then the created erets translated as Earth. Whether sexual sin is involved or not, creating a strong and safe family unit becomes much harder in the wake of incest. By submitting above, you agree to our privacy policy. If you look up Gen 4 youll see that Cain, as some of you have found out, after Abels death feared that other men would kill him. 2. Combine a one-year tablet and print subscription to BAR with membership in the BAS Library to start your journey into the ancient past today! Utterly ridiculous There were no Jews until Judah was born. In the Bible, there is a descendant of Cain named Tubal-Cain who is described as " an instructer of every . (4) God set up a sign to protect Cain, indicating that either his siblings or other relatives might try to kill him. So it is faith we must go by. There is also the fact God had to breathe life into the newly produced body of Adam (Gen. 2:7). And the days of Adam after his fathering Seth came to be eight hundred years. The missing link scientists are looking for I believe would be in reverse. You originally claimed that the expulsion from Paradise referred to the transition from hunter-gatherers to agriculturalists, not that this was its first recording of agriculture in the Bible. Did you read the quotes from Jesus (God in the flesh)? Adams remarkable last words. The same task was also assigned to Israelite. Cain married his own sister at nod because the bible was not mention woman name at that time it was not prohibiter to marry your sister. In Genesis 4:1,2, we read, And Adam knew Eve his wife: and she conceived, and bare Cain, and said, I have gotten a man from the LORD. In the case of consensual incest, there is a possibility that one or both parties are acting out the negative effects of previous sexual abuse suffered personally or witnessed as a child. and over the years that imperfection has worsened, until now, we average the three score and ten Even a venerable delusion stays a delusion. Our oldest mitochondrial relatives go back a minimum of 100,000 years and that is only the female. Lilith, And, since the offspring was only the 2nd to 3rd generation of man then the DNA was much closer to perfect than it is today so incest was not a concern then. Man didnt write the bible, God did, cain married one of his sisters, dont yall understand anything! The Sumerian King List calls it Unug and places it next to Uruk (Erech). The Gulf has receded since then leaving Ur well inland. Does the figurative god that you serve think people are stupid? Who specifically taught a flat earth? These same people mock the Faith of billions of people by pretending to be open minded. Third, the Bible says man is not to live by bread alone, but by every word that proceeds out of the mouth of God. Likewise, the mtDNA can be traced back to a single ancestral sequence, which can be interpreted as either Eve or the last common ancestor of the wives of Noahs sons. CAN ANY HUMAN IMAGEN JEHOVAH GOD TO CONCLUSSION? A couple of interesting points are: 1. in verse 5 it points out that the vegetation was watered by a mist no rain.that did not come until after the flood.a lucid canopy of water surrounded the earth on the outer edge of the atmosphere..that is where the water came from for the floodthe entire earth was tropical back then. Abel was commanded also, to marry Cains twin sister. Required fields are marked *. Agriculture even began before Adam and Eve, 10,000 ago. Gen 2:20 No suitable helper was found For example in the northern US it is considered immoral to marry a first cousin but it is not in British society and in some places in the southern US (there are many jokes about this). It isnt a criterium how long a false doctrine is believed in. Scientists report that many unique genetic disorders [] result when communities begin or persist with small founding populations and cultural isolation, according to the National Center for Biotechnology Information. You know that you are sweeping the whole OT off the table and you are making God and/or all is servants and prophets in the OT out to be liars? zakar & neqebah), which come about at the same time and in unknown number, the paradise story means the arising of two individuals, one man and one woman (isch & ischah). Cains blood line ever completely ended. Christianity.com is a member of the Salem Web Network of sites including: Copyright 2023, Christianity.com. Neither the Bible nor the church has not taught that the earth was flat. Simple, accounting for the Biblical record that Eve is the mother of all the living, Cain (prior to the ban of marrying a close relative which is due to our mutating DNA) married his sister. Yatsar refers to the molding and shaping of an object. Neolithic Revolution was a long process, extending over centuries. Earlier I showed that the male and female of Genesis 1 were the Adam and Eve of Genesis 2-5. Anyone ever thought that Cains wife was created the same way Eve was created. PS: The expulsion from Paradise refers to the Neolithic passage from hunters-gatherers to agriculturalists. Did Cain have children? In Muslim tradition, Cain was born with a twin sister who was named Aclima, and Abel with a twin sister named Jumella. Vote Up Wake up. One can actually answer this question with just a little Bible knowledge. But Im optimistic that their doctrine will fizzle out gradually. Instead of loving his Abel, he did the opposite and brutally murdered his brother. You start off with being a false teacher. The preadamites descend from the terrestrial animals So, which is it? A human cant live over 900 years, thats obviously impossible. The best answer is he married a female relative. It centers on the Land of Eden. The answer is its impossible. Note, marriage can go irrespective of age difference, a man can marry a girl young enough to be their daughter. DOUBTING IS PERMISSIBLE BUT DENIAL IS FOOLISHNESS. Romans 3:23, 24 says that we have all sinned, but we have a free gift of forgiveness due to the fact that Jesus gave his life for ALL mankind..BUT we have to take advantage of that ransom sacrifice of Jesus Christ. Report, October 23 2014 As Darwinism spread throughout Europe, violence was legitimized under the struggle for existence theory. The male line could predate that number. The lack of respect in evidence-based science in favor of stories passed along generations trying to figure out the origin of all things is incredible. And in the first year of the first week of the fifth jubilee, houses were built on the earth, and Cain built a city, and called its name after the name of his son Enoch. Love your enemy, and Pray for those who have enmity towards you. The story shows us that no matter how far we have fallen, how great our sin, God is still Jehovah Jireah.. Besides, God did not give man the right to eat animals until after the flood (Genesis 9:2-4). McCain has 7 children: three daughters and four sons. Adam had many children, so marriage was not a problem as mutations only appeared in the time of Leviticus 18:6 (2500 year later) where God prohibited inter-family relations. . Why did God accept Abel's offering but reject Cain's offering? Adam may have been the first to know God. Thanks to a find in Israel just last week, we know that modern or Cro-Magnon man is a full 50,000 years older than we thought. And he lacked seventy years of one thousand years; for one thousand years are as one day in the testimony of the heavens and therefore was it written concerning the tree of knowledge: On the day that ye eat thereof ye shall die. For this reason he did not complete the years of this day; for he died during it. The psychological impact on witnesses of sexual sin could help us to understand why Lots daughters behaved as they did. Your holy book is filled with stories that are just that: stories. Biblical Archaeology Society []. In Gen. 1.26-27, dm is mentioned in singular AND plural. To go outside these parameters is confessing you do not believe the account of creation as stated in Genesis. For my part I believe the bible story of creation has scientific and historical support, if you take a critical view of our modern take on long ages. No future tense here, she was the Mother of all living at the time. Let me go through these two aspects in some detail. Report, October 22 2014 Eve had cain and azura than abel and awan. By biblical standards,however, Cain was not breaking any laws because these did not exist at the time. CB, Thats why he must be born again/born from above. Adam grew out of natural reproduction. Was John the Baptist conceived via an immaculate conception? Such as, could it have been in America and the garden being say around the area on St. Louis. Should we make an issue of this or not? His wife was human. When Adam and Eve left the Garden, their family consisted of four generations numbering 1,647 pure-line descendants. Also, as Adam and Eve were created perfect, their genes would have been perfect. His family quickly figured it out (Genesis 4:25), so he was likely afraid of what other siblings may try to do. I agree that false teaching has lead to some murder and hate. a flood of tears over his face, and gathered together his children and his In the biblical Book of Genesis, Cain and Abel are the first two sons of Adam and Eve. As for me, Ill see the Gods message and truth behind the text whether it literally happened or not. Jewish sources are not the Word of God. This sounds like the genetic code inherent in each creature from birth, enabling its survival through instinct. It was also typically held in the aboriginal cultures of the Americas, and a flat Earth domed by the firmament in the shape of an inverted bowl is common in pre-scientific societies. Aclima Aclima (also Kalmana, Lusia, Cainan, or Luluwa) according to some religious traditions was the oldest daughter of Adam and Eve, the twin sister of . Consider that the word Adam means something other than a physical man and Eve also has another meaning past a name.. Were Adam and Eve the only couple who were created in the manner described in the Book of Genesis? Very simple: Gen. 5.4 says that the other sons and daughters of Adam have been born after seth. In the earliest part of the Zohar, humans have an animal soul (nephesh) whose desires are the source of sin, and and intellectual soul (neshamah) that functions to serve as a stimulus to religious activity. If Adam and Eve had two sons, Cain and Abel, where did Cains wife come from? Although this is often asked as a trick question by Bible skeptics, the Bible does provide sufficient detail to give a satisfactory answer. Given that the wife of Cain is only mentioned once in the Old Testament, she would not be counted among the famous women in Genesis. As others of Adams and Eves siblings would have, similarly, married, the population would undoubtedly have expanded in exponential terms. Yet a careful analysis of Genesis reveals that the matters presented there are far from clear. Gen. 3:20: Adam called his wifes name Eve, because she had to become the mother of everyone living. Again, Genesis 5:1-3 shows us that Adam of Genesis two is the male of Genesis one. And he built a city, and called the name of the city after the name of his son - Enoch ( Genesis 4:17 ). Will Cain is an American conservative political analyst and sports commentator who started working as a news panelist in 2010 and was most notably featured in programs of Fox network and ESPN. It is all myth. The mens shoulders and hips are equal in width while the ladies shoulders are more narrow than their hips and their bodies appear more curves. 24 If those who hurt Cain are punished seven times worse, then those who hurt Lamech will be punished seventy-seven times worse." The figurative God that you serve think people are stupid, enabling its through. 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