On which levels do you think each of these artists belongs? DEFINITELY !! Lennon's massive hypocrisy shouldn't be overlooked either. Bon Jovi Nirvana: 10/10 As a Beatle, sure, but definitely not as a solo artist. Simmons shares credit for the idea with his friend Gus Ramsey and Wally Ramsey., 2. The chances of me ever getting back into The Beatles, Jimi Hendrix, Led Zeppelin, and their compatriots are practically nonexistent. 81. Eurythmics (Level 1) Yes, this high. Posted by Michael W on Friday, 05/21/2021 @ 14:58pm. By now they could be multiple of 14! Pei, also designed the most famous modern pyramid, the controversial 1988 addition to the Louvre., 3. Russell, 2. Probably one of the innumerable sissy singer-songwriters (Joni Mitchell and James Taylor come to mind immediately). Amen and speak the truth! Connie Hawkins, 99. Jo Jo White, 108. 1994 Willie Dixon Crosby, Stills & Nash: 7/10 Donna Summer (middle 3rd) Santana Anyone voted in simply because they reached a benchmark (sold lots of records, had a lot of hits, etc.) They were rarely acclaimed critically and/or commercially. Bill Simmons Hall of Fame Pyramid: Give Major Weakness of the top 10 NBA All Time. They have reached such a high level of popularity & respect. Billy Joel: 9/10 Let me know if my analogies don't work as well. Heart 1992 Elmore James Bonnie Raitt: 7/10 Randy Newman (middle 2nd) I thought they were dull and uninteresting musically, and they couldn't keep my attention long enough to listen to the lyrics. astrodog brings up a reasonable point about Elvis Costello, especially in his comparison to The Pretenders. Dire Straits De Bravo, Little Willie G., Oran "Juice" Jones. This is Pt 1. Most mean inductee? Ray Charles: 10/10 I'm working on a list of my least favorite artists and will include commentary for each choice. Hardcover. I'm coming up with a questionnaire/survey on the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame's inductees. He could've gone anywhere, but to Golden State and nobody would've held a grudge outside of those weirdos in Oklahoma. 178. Black Sabbath: 10/10 Foo Fighters-Level 1 Muddy Waters (Level 5) Simmons believes that Nolan Ryan was a Tier 4 Baseball HoFer, while acknowledging that several people wouldn't put Nolan Ryan in the Hall at all." 2Pac - 2 1. 1986 and 1986. Johnny Cash, REM, Led Zeppelin, Sly & the Family Stone, Neil Young, Pink Floyd, Bruse Springsteen. Frankie Lymon & The Teenagers: 6/10 My recent finds include Whispering Jack Smith, Billy Eckstine (What a voice this man had! 9/10 = All Time Greats Gasol won't get overlooked for the actual hall because of his int'l resume, but his NBA resume is pretty damn solid too. - This is going off the paperback version which includes everything up to the '09-'10 season. Rodin Hood: Men In Tights 1999 Charles Brown Rick Caffey Audacy Atlanta. The Beatles, Bob Dylan, The Rolling Stones, Stevie Wonder (who was actually even DISCOVERED by one of The Miraclesthe late Ronnie White) and THE WHOSo. 2nd tier works. "You've Got The Love I Need" - J Dilla, Raekwon. I'd probably have The Moody Blues in Level 2 or 3, since they're name checked as the pioneers of art rock and prog rock. Please keep comments relevant to the topic. And oh, yeah, let's get the Moody Blues IN before we decide which tier they should be on. 6/10 = Decent Artists Miles Davis (Level 2) Public Enemy: 3 Huh, forgot that the pyramids criteria was "how well does astrodog know the artist" Posted by GFW on Thursday, 10/31/2013 @ 14:00pm, I'd simply move all the artists out of the 5th region, and sub-let a little space for myself. Then he takes it further by completely reevaluating not only how NBA Hall of Fame inductees should be chosen but how the institution must be reshaped from the ground up, the result being the Pyramid: Simmons's one-of-a-kind five-level shrine 177. 2Pac is probably Level 2. I might as well jump in on this poll: Electric Light Orchestra The Cars - 1 I'd buy front row seats for a weird off between Prince and Dr. John. Chicago 1 -"But since I'm in the neighborhood, an easy one: The Ramones. "What's So Good About Goodbye" Giant Sunflower, The Temptations, Quix*O*Tic Level 3: Axl Rose managed to alienate the rest of GNR when the success went to his head and forced them to sign over the rights to the band name. Jason Kidd (see above), 46. Posted by Gassman on Thursday, 10/31/2013 @ 11:28am. Oh Wait, those dimwhits on the election committee have overlooked them again! 3/10 = Mediocre Gail Goodrich, 100. I can name more than one song by Costello (come on, at least give him Pump it Up), but I really don't see a career that matches up well against The Talking Heads in terms of influence, innovation or popularity. -Loudest? Carly Simon (Level 1), Posted by Jordan Einstein on Wednesday, 05/4/2022 @ 15:49pm. 2021: Who isn't? Very good insight expect Dolly should be Level 2 mostly because she's one of the most important women in popular music as a whole. 95. Rating Numbers: Nicest: I'd like to think Buddy Holly would get this one, if he were still alive. ha-ha. Eagles: 9/10 Nicest inductee: Buddy Holly [if he was still alive], Queen, Roger Daltery, Tony Iommi, Fats Domino. Quietest inductee: Brian May, George Harrison, James Taylor. Send a Message. Genesis: 7/10 I'm like 300 pages in and the pyramid hasn't even started, I just finished the 33 suggestions to improve the NBA after that inmediatly comes the pyramid, let me see if I can find it for you. Bill Russell was a very important pioneer for the NBA and the modern player, he was a winner, and he was a great leader. Beauty & The Beast They kept Sabbath out for a while (dumb call). Journey: 3/10 You could even have 5 levels of 3 artist at each level) Least deserving inductee (anyone but Madonna, ABBA, or any Hip Hop inductees*)? Joan Jett & The Blackhearts: 5/10 As for the newer inductees, Marvin Gaye And yes, the RRHOF still is missing a Tier 4 group in Kraftwerk because the voters are idiots who hate Electronic music (amongst other things). Please note that joining is free of charge you don't pay any dine to become member and to contact us here is our mobile number +13092795479 and also here is our directly email iluminatihood123@gmail.com join one join all. What about Public Enemy?). Jerry West, 9. I agree Trent and the gang have proven to be one of the staples in not just 90s rock, but music in general. "I Like It Like That" (Miracles song)- Bobby Vee, Mitch Ryder & the Detroit Wheels. "I Don't Blame You At All" - Rosetta Hightower. This pyramid, while not updated, has provided a lot of inspiration for my list that I'm currently writing: the Rock and Roll Hall of Famers ranked from best to worst. Rush: 2 12. 16. "After All" The Supremes, The Marvelettes. Somebody else played their brand of rock and roll around their time who was better. We already have the news to educate ourselves on sociopolitical affairs anyway. The Miracles should be at Level 4. The Moonglows: 6/10 move to 3: 7/10 = Solid Picks 197. The Cars NWA pulls a 2 and everyone else a 1. 3) THE FOUR TOPS at # 79 2018 Sister Rosetta Tharpe, Posted by Roy on Tuesday, 01/1/2019 @ 20:35pm. They had just released Kid A, and since they were the most written about band at the time, I gave it a listen, and I just don't see it. Since then, he has mentioned in episodes of his podcast numerous changes that he has made to this list. , Posted by Enigmaticus on Thursday, 10/23/2014 @ 09:02am. Bump him up. Ruth Brown The Clash Todd Rundgren-Level 1 Re: Bill Simmons NBA Hall of Fame Pyramid, Quote from: Josh on June 02, 2010, 10:22:44 pm, Quote from: cheloLP on June 02, 2010, 10:18:57 pm, Quote from: Josh on June 02, 2010, 11:17:05 pm, Quote from: Josh on June 02, 2010, 11:31:51 pm, Quote from: t-mac357 on June 02, 2010, 11:38:30 pm, Privacy Notice/Your California Privacy Rights, Topic: Bill Simmons NBA Hall of Fame Pyramid (Read 15826 times). Leonard Cohen 75. Designated for marginal acts who are considered "Borderline Hall of Famers," either because of the Zombies Factor (great career, not long enough) or the Bon Jovi Factor (very good for a long time, rarely great). Curtis Mayfield & The Impressions did it YEARS before John Lennon. Little Richard (Level 5) Roger Daltrey is involved with the Teenage Cancer Trust. New York: ESPN Books. on Saturday, 03/9/2013 @ 22:25pm. CCR: 9/10 "5)Elvis Costello-Alison, and I cannot name another song. 1986 Jimmie Rodgers Whatever his legacy, he'll be remembered for taking that road. His vocal styling influenced numerous singers in the alternative and new wave scenes, from Robert Smith to David Byrne. Miles Davis (Level 2) Whitney Houston Nine Inch Nails-Level 2 "I'll Try Something New" Diana Ross & the Supremes with the Temptations, Barbara McNair, A Taste of Honey, Spyder Turner (as an excerpt from his cover of "Stand By Me") . I can forgive MJ being ranked above the King (though I disagree), but Madge over the Fab Four? "Do It Baby"- Jimmy Ponder, Red Holt (of Young-Holt Unlimited). "A Fork in the Road " Rebbie Jackson 2012 CCR (Level 3) Posted by Bill G on Wednesday, 05/8/2019 @ 06:47am. I don't have a good reason to not have Westbrook here. I like to use the pages devoted to my favorite artists to inform other posters and hopefully get them interested enough in pursuing earlier eras of music. I agree The Miracles are definitely a Level-4 act and agree with every word of your post. 171. Ray [although I haven't seeen it yet] The Outsiders The present facility was officially dedicated May 26, 1973 and has since had two additions. 195. See the rankings as for this Basketball Hall of Fame Sets set on 2/1/2022 1:11:50 PM. And from 2017: Posted by Robert Henry on Tuesday, 05/31/2016 @ 13:51pm. Posted by FRL on Tuesday, 01/1/2019 @ 10:05am. John Fogerty (CCR), Ike Turner, Jerry Lee Lewis, Eddie Van Halen, Axl Rose, and Mike Love (Beach Boys) Putting him ahead of bands like The Byrds, The Doors, Black Sabbath and most of the other bands on the 3rd tier is ridiculous. Call it elitist, call it exclusionary, but I've experienced a major shift in how I listen to music and evaluate it. 182. The Jackson 5: 9/10 Eminem (Level 4) The Surging Knicks, Zombie Heat, and a Bizarre College Hoops Season With Ariel Helwani, Mike Schur, Kevin OConnor, and Tate Frazier, Catch Me If You Can With Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, and Sean Fennessey, The Most Improbable 2023 NBA Story Lines Draft (So Far) With Joe House and Dave Jacoby, The NBA Midseason Power Poll With Ryen Russillo, Phillys Ceiling, Orlandos Future, Kawhis Present, and Ben Simmonss Past With Chris Ryan, Steve Ceruti, and Michael Pina, The Challenge: Ride or Dies Season Finale With Bill Simmons, The Clock Is Already Ticking for Kyrie Irving and the Mavs, Seven Straight for the Knicks and Coach Pikiell on Rutgerss Tourney Chances, GM and Coach Secrets From the NFL Combine, Everything Left to Sort Out Over the Stretch Run, How to Identify Sleeper Picks, Sidy on the Rise, and Worries About Scoots Shooting. 1987 Hank Williams Stockton at 30 and CP3 at 42. Posted by The Dude on Tuesday, 01/1/2019 @ 14:24pm, How about a pyramid for the Early Influence category, with Wanda Jackson and Freddie King as a 1 because they never should have been inducted in that category? While Hall of Famers have been assigned a particular level3, there is no ranking within a particular group. Tim Duncan, 7. It's high time that we recognize their limitations as exactly that and take them down off the arbitrary pedestal they were perverse placed on. 4/10 = Marginal Questions 6 &7 are differnet type of questions. "Doggone Right" Bobby Davis. 2014 11. And where does Shaq rank on Bills 100-player Hall of Fame Pyramid? *******THE TOP 100 ARTISTS OF ALL TIME:******* target="_blank" title="http://www.beat.com.au/sites/default/files/imagecache/630_315sr/images/article/header/2013/april/lilb.jpg[/img]">http://www.beat.com.au/sites/default/files/imagecache/630_315sr/images/article/header/2013/april/lilb.jpg[/img], Posted by GFW on Thursday, 10/31/2013 @ 18:26pm. The Doors Posted by Mat r on Wednesday, 05/4/2022 @ 16:32pm, Level 1: And yeah the Dead should have been a star on top of this pyramid, gazing down. You want to know about influence? As of 2012, there are 180 inductees in the performer category, which divides up nicely into 5 groups, each with multiples of 12 artists (Level 1 has 60, Level 2 has 48, etc.). Ray Charles, James Brown & The Famous Flames, Aretha Franklin, Fats Domino, The Velvet Underground, Muddy Waters, Bob Dylan, The Rolling Stones, Black Sabbath, Queen, David Bowie, Buddy Holly and the Crickets, Sam Cooke, and The Jimi Hendrix Experience are all on an equal plane of influence with those three. All The Jurassic Park films "Shop Around" Captain & Tennille, Don Bryant, The Astronauts, The Allusions, and Georgie Fame, Neil Merryweather and Lynn Carey, among numerous others. how NBA Hall of Fame inductees should be chosen but how the institution must be reshaped from the ground up, the result being the Pyramid: Simmons's one-of-a-kind five-level shrine to the ninety-six greatest players in the history of pro Dirk Nowitski (up from Level 2, below Mikan). Jay - Z: 10/10 28. Exactly, Posted by Matthew on Saturday, 05/25/2013 @ 12:13pm. YOU'D BETTER BELIEVE IT !! 1) THE MIRACLES at # 32 The "most civilized" question is mostly on how the artist acts in society or performances. The comments in this section have also been helpful, and of course, my own personal opinions, tastes and whatnot. The Coasters: 8/10 To tell you the truth, outside of 1950s rock 'n roll (which I will love to my dying days) and some later eras/genres of rock 'n roll, I'm growing increasingly bored with rock 'n roll music. Jack Twyman, 107. it's 2019 and theAMAZINGcool is making a TRIUMPHANT return !!! Hell, when it comes time for kanye are we really gonna say his mark isn't bigger than say the who (who i love)? Bob Lanier, 105. 36. 2020: "Can You Love a Poor Boy" Bobby Vee, Softones, Gil Bernal, Ronnie Walker. 1987 T-Bone Walker The Stooges Roy Orbison (This is an incomplete list, as songs by the Miracles continue to be covered by more artists each year) 31. Torae, and others. The Supremes "Bad Girl" Dazz Band, Mary Wells, Jackie Jackson. 162. Posted by BSLO on Friday, 11/1/2013 @ 10:40am. Cat Stevens The guy was a good singer-songwritermaybe the best of the 70's, but his innovation as a solo artist was pretty much zero. All-Time Finest View entire all-time finest list Current Finest R.E.M: 10/10 Posted by Follower on Friday, 01/11/2019 @ 18:37pm. He's going to jump 30-40 spots regardless. One thing I will say about Young's music is that his attempt at electronica in the early 1980s was completely laughable and ill-advised. Chuck Berry. 1/10 = Not even worth of mention I assumed you meant the bottom, but I don't wanna put words in your mouth. https://www.cleveland.com/entertainment/2019/04/ranking-every-rock-and-roll-hall-of-fame-inductee-by-tiers.html The most obvious one to me is Metallica, who are no brainers for level 4 at least, and could possibly mount a case (admittedly a weak one) for level 5. Demote. Both were the darlings of the same type of audience in their day, but REM was a very different type of band. 1 bestselling book around the premise in 2009.. . Bob Marley or Jimmy Cliff I still question that there isn't more room in each rung, there should be more room added with each class. I would also move Buddy Holly And The Crickets up to the top. Then, on Feb. 24, 2019, he revised Curry to be top 20. Still hasnt talked about a ton of the top guys. Otis Redding: 10/10 I think this is perhaps because they are an entitled bunch of dicks and no-one likes them as human beings, but also because people don't realise: 221. 12. The Who 41. Fats Domino Most influential besides Beatles, Elvis and Chuck: The Book of Basketball was an achievement. 121. Ground floor of The Pyramid. Most quiet inductee? The Paul Butterfield Blues Band: 3/10 Blake Griffin doesn't make the Pyramid, but he was a Top 3 guy for a few years there. Well, the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame Museum in Cleveland is already shaped like a pyramid 2, so it was only natural to take Simmons' baseball idea and apply it to rock and roll.. Queen: 10/10 Jay-Z and Biggie Smalls are in the most appropriate level. 6)Patti Smith-Why is she in the hall again? 2012 Freddie King Join us for a Stathead virtual panel to kick off the 2022-23 NBA Season on October 12 at 7pm ET. bill Bill Simmons Player Pyramid simmon Today's Top Quizzes in Sports Browse Sports hide this ad Today's Top Quizzes in Basketball Browse Basketball Top Contributed Quizzes in Sports 1 2022 World Cup Stars 2 Name Just One - 10 to 1: Sports 3 Gardiens vs Mbapp 4 World Cup Champions by Poster 5 Name Just One - 10 to 1: NFL 6 Probably 1993 (Doors & CCR), or else the first two classes (lots of 50's/early 60's favorites). Where's number 5? I know Giannis, Harden, and Russ won those MVPs, but KD was the best player on the best team and snatched the crown from LeBron in 2017 and 2018 when he outplayed him in both those series. Any thoughts? I did read an article once that said Radiohead were the new REM. Talented as hell, but weird as hell. (I would say second or third). Laura Nyro: 4/10 "We've Come Too Far To End It Now"-The Escorts And why couldnt it last? Their music and songs have influenced artists all over the world in every major musical genre over the last 50 years . ***. Bill breaks it down with his former ESPN colleague J.A. Van Morrison -the Non-Performers? I agree about John Lennon. * This only goes to the Rockist group who mostly bash on these types of artist and keep saying that the formerly snubbed-artist should be in already. N.W.A Randy Newman As a link between boogie-woogie, jump blues, and rhythm & blues, he is a highly important name and should not be ranked lower than less relevant names like Buffalo Springfield, The (Young) Rascals, Jackson Browne, The Righteous Brothers, and Gene Pitney. Ike & Tina Turner: 9/10 Posted by theAMAZINGcool on Friday, 04/19/2019 @ 07:36am. Baez - 1, Posted by Classic Rock on Thursday, 12/22/2016 @ 18:38pm, Posted by Roy on Friday, 04/14/2017 @ 09:13am. He's made 3 1st Team All-NBAs, but only made the playoffs twice (this year will be the 3rd). 45. Brenda Lee: 6/10 I don't think either of them have been as influential, but obviously that's my biggest criteria. I would also move Talking Heads up to the 4th tier. Paul Westphal, 90. 7. But Elvis Presley was known for his kindness and generosity (up to the mid-50's) 40. Anybody remember songs like "Keep On Pushing", "Choice Of Colors", and "People Get Ready" ? 63. Billy Joel ARE YOU KIDDING ME ?? Rating Numbers: Off the top of my head, I think it was something like MJ, LBJ, Russell, Kareem, Magic, Bird, Wilt, Duncan, Kobe, West, Oscar, Hakeem, Shaq, Moses, KD. ABBA: 7/10 Basically these acts are all Level 2, Posted by Plebeian on Thursday, 05/20/2021 @ 18:13pm. The only artist from the last two years that I'd move up would be Nine Inch Nails. -Weirdest? Meanest: Ike Turner! 68. 34. Rage Against the Machine (Level 1 or 2) John Fogerty of CCR is pretty deserving in this respect too. Powered by SMF | Steely Dan: 8/10 There are a lot of critic's darlings that fade over time. While there are plenty of eligible snubbed artists out there, there are likely very few, if any, who would make it into Level 4 of the pyramid if they were ever inducted (Level 5 is impenetrable at this point by any non-Hall of Famer). Not even a hot take at all lmao I have Durant at 14. The O'Jays: 7/10 -Hard to say ultimately, it's really about the music and their commitment to it. Sly & The Family Stone: 10/10 Posted by Mike on Thursday, 05/28/2020 @ 12:15pm, Posted by Frank on Friday, 04/9/2021 @ 04:03am, Cleveland.com put out a ranking of the Performer R&R HoF inductees, "from the best to Bon Jovi" based on, presumably, influence, artistic integrity, I imagine whether they were inducted during a full moon, and of course whether the author(s) liked them. 10/10 = Immortals, Legends & Icons T. Rex-1, maybe 2 "Lower-tier Bob Dylan"? Eminem-Level 4-In my opinion, Eminem has absolutely had an impact and back catalogue that can stand aside against David Bowie, U2, Bruce Springsteen, Elton John etc. Paul Simon: 8/10 6. But the Celtics Brogdon is mounting a well-rounded campaign that hearkens back to some of the earliest Sixth Men. They don't have a ton of bands imitating them other than Coldplay. Dezmond, I won't go into a full-blown rant about my distaste for Neil Young, but I'll leave you with this nugget: I can generally be objective about artists whose music I'm not overly fond of (Frank Sinatra, The Beatles, Miles Davis, Bob Dylan). I can't put a guy in Level 4 who never got to the Finals. Wilson Pickett: 9/10 -Probably the first class, 1986 Posted by Enigmaticus on Thursday, 10.31.13 @ 09:54am, Posted by Enigmaticus on Wednesday, 10/22/2014 @ 09:54am, I am shocked that Enig would think that "In my honest opinion, Rush should also be placed a lot higher. -U2 I actually think that every act up there is almost exactly where they should be. Journey Pete Maravich, 77. Inductee that should have been first-ballot (again, don't answer Rush*)? It's pathetic. Black Sabbath 1996 Pete Seeger Buffalo Springfield They have 18 acts in their top tier, and based on this David Bowie should be in Level 5. 1989 The Soul Stirrers Metallica Over the past two-three years, I've become heavily enamored with blues, jazz, bluegrass, country/western, and even old Tin Pan Alley/classic standards. "Give Me Just Another Day" Young Jeezy (as the basis for his song, "Mr 17.5"), Schoolboy Q, Wade Waters, Christina Milian, Rick Ross, Marco Polo feat. Your Account; Logout; Login; Create Account; You're invited! -Quietest? Willis Reed, 34. We use cookies and other tracking technologies to improve your browsing experience on our site, show personalized content and targeted ads, analyze site traffic, and understand where our audiences come from. "Much Better Off" J Dilla. But, he had to join a 73-win team to get there. 49. DEFINITELY !! 1997 Alex English. Were they just dominant at times? In addition, the Miracles have been regarded as the most covered act in Motown's roster and have influenced numerous artists worldwide in the last 50 years. "Whole Lotta Shakin' In My Heart (Since I Met You)" The Hellacopters, Marv Johnson. Subscribe: Apple Podcasts / Art19 / Spotify / Google Podcasts. Isaac Hayes The Mamas & The Papas: 6/10 Dolly Parton (Level 2) Eddie Cochran: 9/10 Bird, 5. ARE YOU KIDDING ME ? Best hip-hop act: The Beastie Boys, Public Enemy, Run DMC. ), Dolly Parton, Boyz II Men, Human Nature, among many others Posted by KXB on Wednesday, 08/3/2016 @ 12:10pm. 1. Most influential besides The Beatles, Elvis Presley, and Chuck Berry? The Stooges (Level 3) Nina Simone- 4 They are certainly not on the level of Bowie, Springsteen, Aretha, or Nirvana, even Michael. And when is Poco going to move up. I still listen to modern rock/indie radio at times, but for the most part, I start losing sustained interest around 1998 or '9. They should be upgraded too. "Don't Let It End (Till You Let It Begin)-Betty Everett . Most civilized inductee? Level 5 The Rolling Stones: 10/10 The Rolling Stones 5 2000 Billie Holiday Posted by astrodog on Thursday, 10/31/2013 @ 23:38pm. Righteous Brothers: Influenced Hall & Oates, Laura Nyro, and Paul Simon. "I Gotta Dance to Keep From Crying" The Who, Jimmy James. 99. "More, More, More of Your Love" Bob Brady & the Con Chords MORE PROOF !!! Thanks, SHREK, for your bullshit opinion. Most weird inductee? Hank Ballard (and the Midnighters) move to 1: I personally think Radiohead and U2 and perhaps solo Lennon are 3s, and CSN, Clapton, and maybe BB King or The Byrds belong in 4. LaVern Baker I'd prefer Nina on Level 2, but I'd ultimately have no problem putting all the artists on Level 1. 1990 Ma Rainey 100. Nine Inch Nails (Level 2) Lionel Richie He was one of the first rock and rollers to incorporate politics and social issues and he mostly did that during his solo career. Kraftwerk if they ever get in deserves at least a 4, comparable to the Velvet Underground for a band with little commercial success (in the USA anyway) that had major long term impacts on the course of future music trends. 1986 Robert Johnson Bon Jovi 120. Most civilized: One that was added this year, Peter Gabriel. Best hip hop: Public Enemy. I'd say a tier down at least. Posted by Follower on Friday, 01/11/2019 @ 18:50pm. Dwayne Wade [up from Level 3, below Walton]. Aerosmith: 9/10 Now that the lower tiers are no longer multiples is 12, is anyone ever going to move up from 4 to 5? Kevin McHale, 40. Duane Eddy: 6/10 Simon and Garfunkel That's almost obscene! Traffic 52. ------------------- Posted by Follower on Monday, 09/24/2018 @ 17:52pm, Posted by Jason Voigt on Monday, 09/24/2018 @ 17:56pm, Yeah Phillip, you're right. Level 3 ?? I agree The Miracles are definitely a Level-4 act and agree with every word of your post. Thank you. 2/10 = Failure "My Girl Has Gone" Etienne Daho, Bobby Taylor, Edwyn Collins, Ken Parker. Radiohead were around then. Bon Jovi- 1 Posted by AlexVoltaire on Tuesday, 12/22/2015 @ 18:33pm. These are basically "L3" guys, only there's something just inherently "greater" about them. Stevie Wonder. 117. Duane Eddy Joan Baez - 1 "I Second That Emotion" Japan, Michael McDonald, Kiki Dee, The Manhattan Transfer, Jerry Garcia, Diana Ross & the Supremes with the Temptations, 10db, Tammy Wynette, Jos Feliciano, Emilie, Stuck In The Middle, Thelma Jones. Some QUALIFYING QUESTIONS: Roy Orbison: 10/10 The Everly Brothers: 10/10 Why was the last minute of Game 6 so emotional? Should have been first ballot: Genesis, Black Sabbath, Queen. 17. Kevin Johnson, 106. -the Who, the Dave Clark Five being a close second despite their clean polished sound, they were loud and energetic. 10/10 = Immortals, Legends & Icons Dion In the pilot episode of TBOB Rewatchables, recorded earlier this year on The Bill Simmons Podcast, Bill re-lives that historic night with The Ringers Chris Ryan and Joe House. Current popularity and connection to grunge aside, Neil Young isn't worthy of the high ranking he's been afforded. Weirdest: Frank Zappa by one point over Michael Jackson. Posted by Bill G. on Thursday, 01/29/2015 @ 19:58pm. 70. Shrewd businessman, but civilized. Here's part 2 of the rating the performers. So what happened? Most nicest inductee? 12. Simon & Garfunkel, I assume (or some doo-wop stuff). 2007 I'm going to pull a Simmons here and admit that I swapped Kidd and Payton because a washed-up Payton barely played for the '06 Heat that won a title while Kidd was actually important to the '11 Mavs. Not many changes to make. Sam and Dave Robert Horry, 97. Favorite inductee outside of the U.S. and the U.K.? 1998 "Can You Love a Poor Boy" Bobby Vee, Softones, Gil Bernal, Ronnie Walker. "We've Come Too Far To End It Now"-The Escorts The Ronettes: 6/10 Posted by John R.C. Almost all of their hits were self-written, making them unique among Motown acts. Bill Simmons remembers the day when he learned The Secret of basketball from Hall of Famer Isiah Thomas, then built his New York Times no. 1991 2004 I kept the same ratio. Posted by Follower on Tuesday, 04/2/2019 @ 18:34pm. The Band: 9/10 Jerry Lee Lewis and The Everly Brothers should both go up in their rankings. Todd Rundgren-1, Posted by Corey Finn on Tuesday, 05/18/2021 @ 15:57pm. Beyond that, a proper redesigning would go something like this: 8. Biggie Smalls-4 227. Yes - 2 (they could be a 1 too but I like them a lot and they are one of the definitive progressive rock bands so I upped them to a 2) Percy Sledge Sabbath, Metallica, Johnny Cash, R.E.M. La Bomba [same thing] 1992 Professor Longhair Little Richard: 10/10 223. I do think the pyramid needs serious changes cause gaye, prince, franklin, jackson, bowie, and maybe tupac have overtaken taken some of the 5 in recent years in many ways. MVP Offline Posts: 9456. The O'Jays: 7/10 ISBN: 978-0345511768 and 034551176X. HALL OF FAME INDUCTEES. -Philip Yes, and the rest of the list is just like you said. 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